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ANDERSON — About 20 Anderson County residents held signs outside the Anderson County Courthouse on Tuesday protesting what they see as a lack of open and honest government.
Tom Clark, one of the protest’s organizers, said residents want to see a full forensic audit of the county’s finances and for all members of the media and county council to have access to Anderson County records.
“We can’t do it with the present council that we have,” Clark said.
The county’s finances have faced intense scrutiny since County Council member Cindy Wilson started investigating employees’ credit card spending last fall. Wilson and council member Bob Waldrep have stated at several meetings that they are dissatisfied with the administrator’s ability to provide information in a timely manner.
Much of the blame during Tuesday’s protest was aimed at Administrator Joey Preston. One demonstrator’s sign said “Expensive trips-hotels-food, that’s our administrator at work.” Another’s simply stated, “Joey Ray resign today.”
The majority of the County Council members said they have never lacked the information they need to make decisions. County Council members Larry Greer and Gracie Floyd said they’ve never been denied access to county records during the nine and 10 years they’ve served on council.
Council member Ron Wilson said Ms. Wilson gets more information than anyone on the council.
During an afternoon called meeting, Greer called the talk about not getting information “a contrived and calculated campaign” against the county.
There is a right way and a wrong way to do anything, Greer said. He chooses to ask like a gentleman not “a bull in a china shop,” he said.
The council’s remarks would do little to change the minds of demonstrators outside. Clark said he would like to see a new majority on County Council, a sentiment other protestors seemed to share. Max Fleming, who lives in District 5, said he feels like he has no representation.
He believes if there was nothing to hide, the administrator would be more forthcoming with the county’s finance records.
“It’s our money, and we deserve to know,” Fleming said.
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Perhaps the problem with Cindy Wilson, aka cwilson4, isn't getting enough information, as Ron Wilson pointed out, but that she lacks the intelligence to understand the information. Now that is your County Council hard at work.
I joined the march...great time with people that understand government...MANY people that passed in their cars honked for us and for our cause. We may actually replace the entire Gang Of Five next month with honest representatives!! Will be one of Anderson's greatest days.
OK, now you that hate honesty and open government and Joey's puppets can speak. We want to see what Joey told you to say. Come on!!
What a "large" group there was to represent the diversity of Anderson County residents. They really did a huge job participating in such a "protest", better yet to show their back sides. I am a lifelong resident of Anderson County, I will not let anyone think that a group of 20 can make anything more than a spectacle of themselves. cwilson4, sweetie if they were honking it was because they were laughing right in your faces! BigHoustonAstrosFan, you have hit the nail on the head. When an intelligent person is given highly detailed information, they have no problem with it, do they. I wish our dear group of 20 and their donkeys would ride off into the sunset and leave County Council alone, the County Staff alone, the County Administrator alone! Please go back to your dwelling and let peace be restored to Anderson County!!!!!!
On a good note...I'm glad AIM ran the article about one of my hero's from some years ago. I'm glad to know that Tommy Seigler is the officer at the desk when you enter the Historic Courthouse. When he was a pro wrestler, he was someone I was proud of for some reason. Didn't know him but respected him. And still do. He continues to be one that we can be proud of. Today, when I was protesting outside, I went in and told Officer Seigler that I did not realize who he was the last time I protested, but I do now. He is paid to do a job and we can depend on him to do it with honor and as a gentleman. We are still proud of you Tommy! Google Tommy Seigler Wrestler for more, and stop by the old courthouse, go in and meet him. He would like that.
Zeldaz...Thank you for joining us. You mention that we only had 20 folks that protested. I'm sure you realize that someone from your side tried to get a group together to be there today to counter-protest us. His/her efforts did better than I thought he would....ONE person showed up...with signs in his SUV. Was it you?
Most people don't like to walk around with a sign in a protest, but it works. Have you been watching Ch. 4 and Ch. 7 tonight? I see you read this article from Heidi at AIM. You will probably see a lot more in AIM tom. morning, and the Journal, and etc. etc. WE had 20 and ALL the media. YOU had 1 and zero media. Tell me who won. I'm listening.
Wow.....20 people showed up. (With signs!!!)
With over 180,000 citizens in Anderson County....
Can anyone do this math????
Is anyone really impressed? I'm not.
fools, every d..n one of you. Plant your gardens and feed some elderly, hug some kids, visit the sick, go to church...invent, care, create. For God's sake quit protesting a worthless administrator who talks with forked tongue...get over the man...he'll get the boot as soon as you quit giving him something to rub back against.
Cindy Wilson, that means you, you have carried this fight and now its time to let it go...watch and you'll see Mr Bow tie fired. Good people like yourself will always carry the day. Make amends with the rest of the council. All of them have familys and all of them work hard, except Waltrip. Him and Bow Tie will get the karma thats coming around. Mrs. Wilson, thank you for all you have done, let the people of Anderson gain a new respect for you. This intrigue must end.
Compassion and service, its gods way.
Most of them do not have jobs.
cwilson4, I can assure you that I was at work at that time of day. That is the thing that honest people do to support their families. I was not aware that any other group had stooped to playing with sticks and signs when they should have been at work....or do you work?....maybe the government supports you....Also, for whatever reason the media surrounding Anderson County LOVES to make mountains out of mole hills and try to give you people credibility for their ratings. Enjoy seeing yourself on tv and in the "Anderson Enquirer". Every fool has his/her day.
As for moonbeam01,compassion and service is my God's way also. Except we capitalize his name out of respect AND because a proper noun is supposed to be capitalized. I also dare say that combining Bob Waldrep's and our terrific County Administrator's names in the same sentence is blasphemy at best and offends many people of Anderson County.
Will the good people of Anderson stand up and take notice of the fools' that are trying to overtake our county???
cwilson4 I saw you today and now I am sure who you are.You saw and heard me too, if you were at the 3 o`clock meeting, and no I was not the person with the great looking shirt although we are good friends.we talk together,swap information, and I sometime use some of his material. So guess again,Think about what was said at the first meeting, any idiot should be able to figure out who I am and if you do-SO WHAT!
My hat is off to the protestors. I was unable to make the occasion but you can bet I'll be voting against my criminally negligent county-character in June.
dwhit29689,
I am glad you will go out and vote in June. However, I do hope that you get educated on Anderson County and realize that any criminally negligence is coming from the lesser part of Council, NOT the majority.
Sometimes the majority only means that all the fools are on the same side
in response to zeldaz
zeldaz: I've been watching closely. In my opinion five of the seven suffer from listening disorder, public funds abuse and incompetance.
A.I.M. why don`t you print the truth about what happened yesterday at the courthouse. The only people who were protesting were faithful brainwashed followers of the local Radio Spin Doctor,who by the way was at home resting while his Lemming`s were outside in the hot sun protesting for him.Am I the only one who see`s something wrong with this picture? Common sense would dictate that if we have a problem with elected officials that we solve it in the voting booth in November.
in response to theflash
common sense would tell us to get to the bottom of the malfeasance to see who all needs to be voted out. if JRP has done nothing, two need to back off. if JRP is rotten, the five protecting him need to go. an informed decision means knowing all the facts as we find them, not what we are handed on a spoon with some honey. your comments contradict your own position. maybe, since you are apparently well connected to this situation, you can explain why the books have to be kept secret? so far it has just been put forward that it is too expensive or needing protection from unauthorized dissemination. that is pure bunk as several ideas have been put forward about cost issues. i see someone in that camp whining that releasing the information would allow detractors to "twist" the numbers. it is what it is. are you suggesting the rest of us are too stupid to understand the numbers? are you suggesting things that were done with the money looks bad but isn't? we can take this in fifty different directions, but the bottom line is until we see for ourselves, or over the shoulder of an outside expert, we will never trust what you tell us. you have lied too much already. <theflash> you have already admitted you handle things "under the table" and that is a clear indication of why things of this nature don't seem to bother you or are considered "business as usual."
I counted 10 people.
Oh and in the photo, it shows 9 persons (one person looked like she was hurriedly scooting away from the "group").
Plain.
Simple.
Common Sense.
Capt. Leonardo Ortiz (USMM)
in response to In_Search_Of_Truth
Anything that you want to see is available at the courthouse ,all you have to do is go there and politely ask to make an appointment and if you show the same courtesy that you expect, they will let you see anything you want to see and be glad to explain anything that you don`t understand. I know this to be a fact,having already made the trip, and looked for myself.
"WYFF News 4's calls to Preston's office were not returned." - WYFF
Sounds about right..
in response to Capt_Leo
actually there were a larger number of people there earlier, before five o'clock. they came out of offices surrounding the square. after five o'clock they went home. that's okay. twenty today, two hundred next time. to be someone running for office <Capt_Leo> you aren't going to make many friends mocking the efforts of democracy. however small!!
in response to cwilson4
Nobody won anything,in the long run the citizens,voters, and taxpayers all lost becouse of all the fools making Anderson County look like a county full of uneducated rednecks.No wonder we can`t attract jobs of any substance.If you want change,fine but do it the American way;Inthe voting booth ,not on a sidewalk while trying to influence people into thinking like you.
in response to theflash
then explain why was it necessary to go to the Supreme Court regarding obtaining this information? are you telling me JRP wasted all this taxpayer money to defend something that doesn't even exist (denial of access)? sorry your statements and what has happened do not add up. maybe you "know people" and that is why you were given access (if you were indeed, it may just be a lie to support your point.) your blogging history and how you come down all over the place, based on this person or that person, suggests your ship is not steered by any set of fixed principles; but instead, by who gives you what you want personally. at least you are staying consistent with your posting that if you wanted something accomplished in governement you would make sure, "the money gets into the right hands."
is it my computer or is the AIM site have technical issues? it seems like it is choking under the amount of public interest generated by this subject.
Give it up InSearchOfTruth! The negative game of "data, data, where's the data?" is not working. Either resign or run on your record. Either way, you're a short-timer. Positive times are ahead.
one of the guys walking the protest line is my father. he was not working because he is 72 and retired. while we do not always agree on political issues (he's republican, i'm, democrat), we do agree on the fact the joey is hindering the public on getting info. i am very proud that my father has the gumption to get out and voice his opinion. go dad! oh,i work second. i know someone is gonna ask why i was'nt out there with him.
Cindy seems to be self destructing as well. Apparently, she delivered a veiled handwritten threat to the Homeland Park Fire Chief in response to a letter he wrote in support of the 800 Megahertz system. What a dumb political move for her. It's not as if she doesn't already have serious problems within the fire community. Rumor has it that if she and Bob get re-elected and can get their boys Tom Allen and Eddie Moore on Council, they intend to repeal the 800 Megahertz system. It might be time for a little collective muscle flexing by the fireman across the county. Vote CW and BW out now and avoid the end of the year rush.
in response to Pallbearer
give it up, ha...not likely. i'm not a flash in the pan like yourself. explain the mental process behind someone picking a login name that is associated with death? are you trying to intimidate people? especially with the not so veiled threats of violence that permeate your postings. how are we expected to trust anyone in government if they act in a secretive way? i just want to know the truth of the matter. whichever way it falls.
John 8:32 "And you will know the Truth, and the Truth will set you free.
Doug, aka theflash, I completely ignore most of the ill comments posted by either Joey Ray himself or his chosen that are desperately grabbing at everything in trying to keep the Power Of Preston in office. You said:
"The only people who were protesting were faithful brainwashed followers of the local Radio Spin Doctor,who by the way was at home resting while his Lemming`s were outside in the hot sun protesting for him."
Let me clue you in Doug that the Spin Doctor was working hard, not where you were but elsewhere. I was out in the hot sun while Rick was not there in line but I happen to know what he was doing was even more important than what I was doing at that time.
Doug, when Joey Ray and his chosen are in Hilton Head, Chigago, New York City, DC and dozens of other places on their frequent vacations--all at our expense--WHERE WERE YOU? Were you with them or did you stay home and work and pay county taxes so THEY could ejoy the 'high life'?
in response to cwilson4
As i have tried to explain to you before you are calling me by someone`s name who happens to be a friend of mine but does not appreciate having his name in the paper, especially when connected with you, and if you continue we will contact the A.I.M. to see about having this situation corrected. Have I made my point?
in response to In_Search_Of_Truth
For someone to claim to be in search of truth, you twist it to your benefit, huh?
So, now, when did stating a factual observation change into a "mocking the efforts of democracy"? There is a huge difference between stating primary empirical knowledge (which is factual knowledge) and biased opinion.
BTW, I don't kiss posteriors.
Plain.
Simple.
Common Sense.
Capt. Leonardo Ortiz (USMM)
I'm liking you more and more everyday. Your posts are great!
Capt. Leo, this seems to be another good opportunity for you to answer a couple questions that were put to you in another blog a few days ago.
1. The place where your 'law' degree came from appeared to be a diploma mill in CA that was not recognized by the bar assoc. of CA. Is that true?
2. You were asked about your residency in Anderson County and did not reply. If fact you left that blog and did not come back as well as I remember.
No one is blaming you for anything but since you are running for public office we have a right to know your background. Do you agree?
theflash.....you are running so SKEEEEEEEEERED that all I see is your fat butt heading into the sunset. This is the very last time I will ever reply to a SKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERED ass like you.
Get a life. Try the nut house or state prison.
in response to Capt_Leo
you must have a problem with english. i don't see any where the truth was twisted. i said you were mocking other peoples efforts at democracy by making disparaging comments about the people who gathered to protest. your inference was clear. stop trying to play like everyone is stupid.
"I counted ten people." (if you had been there you would have seen alot more who came and left after about an hour)
"Oh and in the photo, it shows 9 persons (one person looked like she was hurriedly scooting away from the "group")."
correcting 10 to 9? that was necessary observation? what is the suggestion here, how few people were involved? the flow of this whole thread is about how few people turned out. and you add your little "observations" about a woman
"hurriedly scooting" (how do you observe that in a picture). seems like you jump on any bandwagon that rides by. are you that desperate for friends?
so you are trying to say what you said and the way you said it were just "observations". well i observe how you have a hard time following the laws as to driver's licenses and insuring your car. i could go on "observing" much about you. but that isn't what this is supposed to be about. how about some supportive remarks for people who are utilizing the democratic process rather than snide remarks framed as "observations."
Capt. Leo.....I'm waiting again for your reply to my first two questions. Problem???? Are you skipping out of this blog as you have done before? Voters deserve to know.
in response to In_Search_Of_Truth
I was there. I counted 10 people in the "group" standing in front of the old Courthouse.
And in the picture, if you copy and paste, then lighten it in order to clearly see the number of folks, then the count in the picture appears to be 10 people, but one female appears to be hurriedly scooting through.
BTW, I have broken no laws regarding my licensing and my insuring of my vehicles.
So, there you go twisting again...
ROFL
Plain.
Simple.
Common Sense.
Capt. Leonardo Ortiz (USMM)
in response to theflash
My good man "flash", while you have had some perceptive things to say about this circus, you have failed to absorb a crucial fact, however. The power brokers at AIM have no interest whatsoever in the truth, which is something that I am sure some of their lower level employees would attest to, if they could afford to find themselves unemployed. AIM is not a newspaper; it is a fire starter, a term applied metaphorically, which is not to say that to employ it literally may help you to receive something close to a fair return for your investment.
If you require any more proof than that made manifest everyday, simply peruse the coverage of the last election in Anderson. What you will find is that the readers of AIM--with a number of exceptions, characterized largely by the fact that their comments are so vile, largely consisting of stunningly juvenile character assassination, that no reasonable person reads past the first sentence-- are both more interested and more competent than the putative news provider for Anderson in their search for the truth. Alas, one need not be very conscientious to meet these qualifications. Thankfully, there are many who are quite conscientious, and they manage to pull it off without the self-righteousness, which tends to characterize a second population of exceptions to the rule of the interested and competent seekers.
in response to payattention
The timing of the current circus is far from fortuitous, I can assure you. There are two council members who are attempting to create momentum for the impending council elections. It is often the case that politicos who are not in a position to secure their reelection by discussing their legislative record will instead attempt to create a diversion by yelling about one particular issue. If I were one to incite others to illegal activity, I would urge you to bet a large sum of money to some sucker; wager that the Cabal of (un)Transparancy will do everything in their power to make so- called "good government" the one and only issue in their bids for re-election. Double or nothing that they will claim that their opponents must be opposed to transparency and good government, since they have the temerity to challenge them in their crusade.
Citizens of Anderson, beware of those who feel compelled to create a big bang in order to see to their retention of the power they so covet. What is being obscured by this very loud and self-righteous diversion? Politicians generally adhere to the rule that controversy is best avoided when facing an election.
Upon encountering an exception of the magnitude of the one under discussion, my intuition tells me that something fishy is going on. Past experience leads me to believe that the competent citizens of this county who are sincerely committed to the truth will uncover the pink elephant, which is not currently visible to many because they are trying to find out what all the noise is about. Those screaming the most loudly about a "cover up" are almost certainly attempting to divert us from something about their own conduct, which ought to be uncovered.
in response to cwilson4
The position of those who support Ms. Wilson and Mr. Waldrep is certainly not advanced by hyperbole, such as that put forth by "cwilson4".
Frankly, it is somewhat amusing to have some one argue that the administrator is taking vacations in what I suppose she/he regards as exotic places. Hyperbole is much more effective when it is accompanied by a bit of ironic self-distance.
Incidentally, 3 of the 4 vacation destinations of the administrator strike me as likely places for institutions looking to make major economic investments in other areas of the country may locate their corporate headquarters. It could be suggested that the forth is a place to take possible investors, in order to prevent them from being exposed to damaging levels of bombast and Spin Doctors on important missions.
in response to Capt_Leo
no, just "observing". stick with the 'voyage' of your candidacy and stop 'shifting' with the ebb and flow of every issue.
in response to In_Search_Of_Truth
"Give a man enough rope and he'll eventually hang himself"
Please be a bit more careful with all that rope I sent ya.
Plain.
Simple.
Common Sense.
Capt. Leonardo Ortiz (USMM)
in response to Capt_Leo
i stopped taking you seriously when you posted this comment about what your wife thinks of you.
"My bride said it best once when she was asked what her husband does. "He has a fishing shop in the garage, but in his real life, he fights with government bureacracies and sues big corporations... and he wins often," she replied. I kind of liked her reply."
let's see here now. according to public records you have sued four times in Anderson County.
against Nelson, Watson & Associates, Llc., you got nothing.
against Asset Acceptance, Llc, your case was dismissed and you got nothing.
against Nco Financial Systems, Inc., your case was dismissed with prejudice and you got nothing.
against Alltel Corporation you won a default judgment because they didn't show up.
so you are 1 out of 4 and the one you won they didn't show up.
if you have convinced your spouse you are a legal wiz based on that record...well you must have a willing believer.
in response to payattention
For someone who says alot, you don't say much. Aren't you the fella that was hollerin' about city councilman Dunaway and demandin' honesty in government? Somebody hire you on the other side of the fence for the county council race? You want honesty for your candidate but not for the people. Interesting position.
Capt. Leo...Helloooooo, I'm still waiting for you to tell us about some of those "degrees" that you have, especially your "law" degree.
However, the word is now out on you. Just another Prestonite following Joey around. I'm sure you heard that today, right?
in response to In_Search_Of_Truth
It is such a nice relief to know that stupidity and cowardice is in the minority rather than in the majority. If it were the opposite, then I'd worry.
But then again, I feel sorry for you being that you just keep tangling yourself up more and more with that rope.
BTW... I am not the chicken when it comes to people knowing who I am.
Plain.
Simple.
Common Sense.
Capt. Leonardo Ortiz (USMM)
But, Capt. Leo, you once again evade the questions. Don't waste your money running.
Cwilson4,
Since you brought up a previous thread where questions went unanswered, I would still like an answer to the questions I posed to you on the Creationism thread. Would you like me to repeat them here?
in search of truth,
your actions speak louder than your words here and you have lost any credebility by trying to pick a fight with someone way smarter than you. I'm not the smartest person, but you took what Capt Leo said and tried to pick a fight with him and even tried to spread some lies when all he said here was he "counted 10 people and the picture showed 9". How can anybody with any sense really expect anyone to believe that was a "mocking" of anything. The story said there were 20 people. he just said he saw 10. no rocket science there.
Then you start picking on him. Well, seems like you picked a fight with someone who tore you up.
Capt leo.
I've read your posts and I don't agree with you on all of them, but I like a man who knows how to handle himself. I'm going to come see you and get all my friends and family to vote for you. We need someone who doesn't put up with crap.
cwilson,
your just a hateful idiot. you are the problem and not the solution. I have yet to read anything good from you and you write alot. Maybe you should get laid or something so you wouldn't be such a hateful old crabby person. You know, they make toys for people who can't get any.
in response to Cheri
well <cheri> how kind of you to say that. since this is your first post, having just created a new account in order to support <Capt_Leo> (which i would guess you are <Capt_Leo> or his wife) i can't very well comment on your posts. however, thank you anyway for your kind observations. we look forward to your posts in the future. i try my best to lend a voice to the voiceless. maybe in the future if someone like <Capt_Leo> says something disparaging about you, i may be by your side defending you.
as to this post. well let's see. yes <Capt_leo> must be way smarter than me because i am not smart at all. it is probably all those degrees and stuff he has. your statement that i "tried to pick a fight and tried to spread some lies" suggests you are close to <Capt_Leo> and that you have not/do not read my past posts. i don't call people liars, i don't "pick" fights, i don't call people names, i don't mock others inability to communicate effectively, or their attempt to be part of the Democratic process. so if i do please point it out and i will stand corrected. thanks again.
since you don't know who i am, i can only assume your calling me a liar, or defending <Capt_Leo>'s "observations", means you have little better or more to say than be a cheerleader. cheers! gimme a C-A-P-T-A-I-N L-E-O. yeah!
note: if you are not prepared to be vetted in the public eye, don't run for public office! if you are foolish enough to put forward your personal information on a public blog, don't think everyone else a coward if they don't. remember YOU are the one running for public office, not me. good luck!
in response to Cheri
ty Cheri.
You are welcomed to come by.
Don't let these few hatemongers get you bothered. I simply ignore the miserable negative folks like cwilson... both online and in r/l. There are some folks in the world that are just so negative about their lives that they wallow in their miseries and the only way for them to feel better about themselves is to blame the rest of the world rather than looking in their mirror and see what the real problem in their lives are.
And you are right. This "In Search of Truth" person apparently is just another agitator who epitomizes the old saying... "better to keep your mouth shut and let people THINK you're stupid, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." But, basically he's entangled himself and hung himself. He thinks he's smart by being able to do what any 4th grader can do... pull up public internet records... but then he proves himself otherwise and contradictory to his nickname by once again twisting the facts just to agitate (i.e. pulling up personal civil actions since he can't legally pull up the cases I actually work in Administrative Law since those aren't subject to public access).
As I like to say, "Give a man enough rope and he'll hang himself."
I always appreciate it when I see yet another person who sees past that prima facie facade and the cry-baby tactics of the "White Hat Principle" practitioners. Your comment has reinforced my positive faith in the human prospect.
Again, I thank you for your comment(s) and I also thank the other real people out there who actually have something productive to say rather than consistently being nothing but destructive.
In fact, funny how these very folks who "claim" to be so responsible and so "conservative" end up being the very ones that cost the taxpayers in their frivolous personal vendettas.
'nuff said.
Plain.
Simple.
Common Sense.
Capt. Leonardo Ortiz (USMM)
thank you again <Capt_Leo>, for your revealing remarks. how bout them Yankees!
in response to Capt_Leo
These are not the words I would choose from someone to represent me in the Senate.
Hate mongers, stupidity and cowardice, chicken, I don't kiss posteriors, looked like she was hurriedly scooting away from the "group”, miserable, negative, so negative, their miseries, the real problem, agitator, entangled and hung, contradictory, twisting the facts, agitate, hang himself, prima facie façade, cry-baby tactics, "White Hat Principle" practitioners, nothing but destructive, cost the taxpayers, frivolous, personal vendettas.
'nuff said.
Plain.
Simple.
Common Sense.
What in the world is Leo raving about? I simply asked him to clear up something concerning his law degree. Did he get it from a diploma mill in CA that is not recognized by the State Bar in CA or not? Is that a difficult question Leo?
Now you got me mad Leo. Since you refuse to answer my above question and since you have skipped out of several other blogs rather than answer any questions, my thoughts now are that ALL your "degrees" are as false as you are.
Prove me wrong and I will apologize.
Oh good cwilson! You're back, so you can answer my questions from the Creationism blog that you skipped out on. You want me to repeat them here?
Here's the link to that comment list. Thanks.
http://www.independentmail.com/news/2...
Leaving to go camping for the weekend, but I'll catch you Mr. Wilson on Monday. Have a good one!
JWhite, hope you have a good and safe camping trip. Here is your comment:
"Posted by JWhite on April 30, 2008 at 9:42 a.m.
Why can't God be a she? So you are not only certain that God exists, you are certain of his/her gender or that he/she has a gender to begin with? Gosh darn it, you're good.
And for the record, I'm no atheist. I believe God set in motion everything that led to this fantastically beautiful world that we live in. She's good! (I don't think God has a gender. I'm just trying to make your head explode now ;)
Let me give you a little scripture reference to ponder...
"And God said, Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea...." Genesis 1:26 KJV
Who is the second person in "our?"
I believe the second person in 'our' is Jesus. I believe in the trinity: God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
God created Adam in His likeness, male. Eve was created at a later time for Adam.
Much is impossible to prove, either way. Simple faith and belief in the Holy Bible is the only way to picture God. Also, there is but one way to be saved and have a place in Heaven and it is simply explained in John 3-16. I believe that not accepting Jesus, as explained in John 3-16, is the only unpardonable sin. Other sins can be forgiven.
I have no desire to argue my beliefs so I hope my explanation as to what I believe will open your eyes to God's eternal truth.
in response to Cheri
Cheri...
How long have you resided in Anderson, SC and where were you educated?
I will provide my reasons for inquiring later.
Cheri....amazing that you read all of my 225 posts in the few moments after you registered with AIM. WoW! Tell your husband Leo that we wont get fooled by lieing political hopefuls again. We are going to ask them questions and so far Leo has not truthfully answered the first one. Help him out if you can, he's gonna need it.
wilson,
you really are an idiot. I can see why he ignores you. I've been reading the paper online for a long time. And there are alot of other people like me who have been keeping up but just because we keep up it doesn't mean we all sign up online and judge others constantly so hatefully and then tell others how christian we are. Jesus talked alot about the pharisees in the bible and you and your little group that thinks you own the newspaper would be the one yelling loudest to crucify him if you were living back in those times. your too pathetic to pay any attention to.
guy,
how long have you been a resident of anderson county and where were you educated? Are you one of the self-proclaimed gods of the newspaper in wilson group?
in response to Cheri
I forgot to also ask guy are you a registered voter? Will you be voting for sheriff or solicitor? I'll give my reasons later too.