ANDERSON COUNTY — Anderson County Council voted Tuesday night to release Anderson County Administrator Joey Preston from his employment contract with the county and to hire Assistant Administrator Michael Cunningham to replace him.
Preston said Tuesday that he had no comment. The severance agreement allows him 21 days to decide whether to accept the offer.
According to documents released by Council member Ron Wilson, the package would provide Preston with $1.14 million comprised of $359,258 in South Carolina Retirement System service credits and $780,575 in the form of severance, as well as transfer of the title of the 2006 GMC Yukon currently owned by the county to Mr. Preston.
In the middle of the regularly scheduled council meeting Tuesday night, Wilson added an item to the agenda to discuss some of the activity of the personnel committee.
Speaking, he said, as both as a council member and as the chairman of the personnel committee, Wilson made a motion to offer Preston a severance package and a release of claims.
“Several weeks ago we were given a letter from Mr. (Robert) Hoskins (Preston’s attorney),” Wilson said. “Council voted to put it in the hands of the personnel committee. … What I am about to do, I am going to do myself. It has not been voted on by the committee. We have a situation in this county, regardless of which side you are on, that is very detrimental to it.”
Wilson was referring to a letter the county received in which Preston’s attorney said Preston considered the rumors of actions of the oncoming council are supposed to be taking “termination without cause.”
According to the letter, Preston said some council members “have hindered (his) ability to do his duty for seven years.”
Additionally, the letter said the expected actions of the incoming council, which Preston has learned of, may be considered “an anticipatory breach of his employment contract.”
Preston’s contract outlines that in the case of termination without cause, the administrator is entitled to payment for the remainder of his contract term. It was unclear Tuesday how much that would have amounted to.
Preston currently makes $167,837.93 per year, according to figures released by the administrator’s office in October.
“I think we’ve been given a window to deal with this matter and to deal with it in a way that will be positive,” he said. “If we don’t deal with (this matter), how long will it go on and how expensive will it become,” Wilson said.
According to the proposal, Preston would remain as county administrator until Nov. 30 and stay on as a consultant to the county until Dec. 31.
“(Preston) shall devote his full attention, energies, and commitment to assisting in the smooth transition of responsibilities from (Preston) to the acting/interim county administrator,” according to the documents Ron Wilson distributed.
Wilson said the proposed solution was not everything that Preston wanted. Wilson also said that while there are those who think Preston’s contract is “not worth the paper it’s written on,” there are those who disagree with that view and feel that the issue would have to be settled in court.
Wilson’s motion was met with surprise by Council members M. Cindy Wilson and Bob Waldrep. Waldrep questioned whether or not it was proper procedure for Ron Wilson to make the motion as the chairman of the personnel committee without first bringing the matter to council.
Thompson said Ron Wilson made the motion not as the committee chairman but as a council member. Ron Wilson said he made the motion as both a council member and as the chairman of the personal committee, and he stood by that statement after the meeting.
Cindy Wilson said she felt the report needed to be made to council first as well as getting legal counsel about the agreement.
The motion to accept the severance package and release of claims passed 5-2, with Waldrep and Cindy Wilson opposed.
Following the passage of the severance package, Council member Larry Greer proposed transferring money from several county funds to pay for the package.
“This is basically giving information of where the money is coming from, each account and which accounts (are) transferring a total of $1,140,122 - that’s different than what’s in the contract you just voted on,” Council Chairman Michael Thompson said.
Thompson said he had not seen the transfer agreement until a few moments before his statement at the meeting.
The money would come from positions that were currently vacant or had not yet been filled.
The transfer of funds passed 5-2, with Wilson and Waldrep in the opposition.
Council then reconsidered both the motion to accept the severance package and the motion to transfer the funds.
Although Cindy Wilson tried to discuss some of the terms of the settlement, she was ruled out of order by Thompson when Council member Bill McAbee said she was not discussing issues germane to the topic of discussion.
Waldrep objected.
“Why can’t we discuss anything tonight?” Waldrep said. “We don’t have any numbers… I don’t think I have ever been witness to such a motion where something has been railroaded. We can’t even articulate the amount we’re voting on.”
Cindy Wilson mirrored Waldrep’s comments.
“This is a railroad job, and we have a fiduciary responsibility to the taxpayers here,” she said. “Y’all just don’t have good sense.”
After the acceptance of the severance package and the transfer of funds, Council member Gracie Floyd made a motion to hire assistant administrator Michael Cunningham as the new administrator. Cunningham currently makes $108,757.43 a year as assistant administrator.
Floyd presented to council a master employment agreement. The motion passed 5-2 with Waldrep and Cindy Wilson opposed. It was unclear as of Tuesday evening what Cunningham’s new salary would be.
Immediately following the hiring of Cunningham, Thompson said he was sick and he moved to adjourn the meeting. The motion was seconded by McAbee. Despite more items on the agenda, council voted 5-2 to adjourn, with Waldrep and Cindy Wilson in the opposition.
Belton resident Elizabeth Fant said she was amazed by what she saw.
“This is junior high school business,” she said. “It really concerned me that Mr. Wilson said that nobody knew about this agreement except for the attorney… then later on Mr Greer says here’s all the money we need to pay for it. Then Ms. Gracie Floyd says here’s the new administrator. ... How can all this go on if there aren’t council members talking (outside of formal meetings) about this?”
Fant said she was concerned about how this would impact the residents of the county as well.
“I think that they are going to have a hard row to hoe,” she said. “Tax notices have gone out today. We’ve got a deficit of $1.5 million now for this. We won’t be hiring any more people… you’ve got people who are out here now who are elderly on a fixed income… they pay for their groceries, they pay for their gas, they pay for their utilities…. They don’t have $5 to pay for anything else. Your average person is just over the limits. And they are the ones who are just keeping their heads above water… people are going to be really hurting.”
Her issue, she said, isn’t with Preston, but with the governing of Anderson County itself.
“I don’t have an issue with Joey, I’m not for him or against him either way,” she said. “I do believe that government needs to be honest… they are accountable for every cent. It’s a sad day, it’s a really sad day… I’m just really just totally amazed and dismayed.”
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Comments » 77
Mark_SC writes:
These council members have been guilty of a travesty. The voters spoke and wanted them out of office. They are denying the will of the people. The new council should have gotten to handle these personnel decisions. Their childish behavior is going to cost us all a fortune. Thompson, Greer, etc. are a disgrace.
badasmyth writes:
Time to bring in the Feds. This sounds like a RICO issue.
reaper writes:
Preston and his puppets have done it again.
Notice that no one waited till the new council came in to review this.
It was an inside job done between Preston and the council members he could take to a nice dinner @ Sullivan's on the Taxpayer's dime.
I would ask that the Someone in charge up there have the balls to call in the Attorney General's office on this one.
I smell a rat here.
Preston making a 167k per year plus a free YUKON and now he get's the title also. Why did they not just give the arrogant SOB the key to the county. Ah hell the already did.
Last time I checked there is a published agenda and a protocol to be followed not something done @ your local student council meeting in your favorite highschool(aka daycare).
Anderson County has hit a new low.
And the hired a new Administrator without posting the job for qualified people in the USA to submit the resume's and qualifications.
Good BYE and good riddens to one of Caters Lake's most famous DUCK Feeders.
freebird22 writes:
The new council should bring criminal charges against the fabulous 5 and Preston. This is a (RICO) issue and many laws have been bent and broken. They should be made to pay with monetary and or jail time.
rbmccarty writes:
Cindy Wilson and cohorts....a RICO investigation..interesting....
DickRambone writes:
ahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!
Joey does it AGAIN!!!!!
ahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!
ANYTIME, ANYPLACE!!!
ahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!
AND NOTHING CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT!!!
ahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!
myster36 writes:
I've lived here for 13 years. This makes me embarrassed to say I live in Anderson County. The inmates are running the asylum. These council members are pathetic! Glad I voted against the incumbents.
HF writes:
What a joke! NOBODY knew.... Yeah, and the check is in the mail and I will respect you in the morning. Good bye and good riddance to the Unfab Three. Can Gracie and Ron be impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors? Most government jobs have to be posted for bids, but since when does the law apply to this council?
HF writes:
You're a FOOL.
yankee writes:
Wow.
No prior discusiion?
No discussion during?
Wow.
Sounds like a Golden Parachute to me.
jwhigg#208601 writes:
Wow, what a mess!
Tally Ho! Yonder and forever gone, go the thoughts of rational men. We are doomed.
jayson_704#268966 writes:
Impeachment for high crimes? LOL! You really are a piece of work aren't you? The people of Anderson have turned into a bunch of babies. Far from the hard working people I remember.
cobra writes:
What a sad day. These folks will end up working for the contractors who supported the "economic development fund", Preston walks with $1+ MM of taxpayer money, and the hardworking folks of Anderson County are left holding the bag.
This deal PROVES that these folks are in his pocket. Otherwise, envy alone would preclude them from letting JP walk away with more money they will ever see in their lives. Some backdoor renumeration is in order. I wonder what that looks like for each member...
Raise your hand if you were allowed to leave with a company car when you were fired. Anyone, anyone?
The only thing that surprises me is that the "county" didn't buy JP's house at a 25% premium to today's market value. I'm sure that will be remedied on December 2.
huzzah writes:
The thing to remember in all of this is that Preston has a pretty ironclad contract (whether or not it should have originally been signed is a moot point, it HAS been signed and IS in effect). Because of the comments of the incoming council members, there already exists a defacto breach of that contract. It does sound like some behind the scenes discussions have taken place and that this has been ramrodded through the council, but let's look at what it really means.
Due to Preston's contract and the comments of the incoming council, it is pretty much guaranteed that he will receive the full payout regardless of what action is taken. If we wait until the new council takes office, they will summarily dismiss him, resulting in numerous protracted court cases before Preston receives the money which he is contractually guaranteed. He is already going to be awarded this money, how much additional money should the county give to lawyers and the court system because two shortsighted council members refuse to accept the inevitable? I believe that the sitting council realized what would happen and decided to save the taxpayers of Anderson County the additional costs and negative publicity of a long, drawn-out, uncivilized, and unpleasant court battle.
Huzzah to the council for their foresight and common sense!
StupidShouldHurtMore writes:
You know . . .
For a bunch of folks that got EXACTLY what they wanted last night, you'd never know it for all the crying and whining here in these posts. The existing council actually did the incoming council a favor - a favor and point probably lost on the bulk of you based on your current replies.
The outgoing council removed last night what promised to be the central focus of the incoming council. Yes folks, the outgoing council forced the incoming council to deal with THE COUNTY and not JRP.
Nice to know they, the new council, will actually have to get to work instead of mounting the modern-day equivalent of the Spanish Inquisition.
As it has been said before ... be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
Checkmate. Preston wins.
... stupid ...
- SSHM
bull writes:
It's a good thing we voted out the one cent tax or they would have used it to bail out this farce!
zeldaz writes:
Well Boys and Girls, you wanted him gone! Take your medicine like good children would. I am sure that he won't turn this deal down, so you got it, pay the man and let's see how long it takes you to take Anderson County back to the Stone Ages. I, on the other hand, am praying that you can't make too terrible a mess in two years before MCW and BW and company are "fired" by their constituents!
ElCid writes:
Appears that the council can be indicted for malfeasance in office due to this. No public notice, obvious collusion on the part of several council members and violation of the state Freedom of Information Act.
No matter what his contract states, this is way too much money and no court would uphold it. The court would look at what was in the best interest of the taxpayers and probably void the contract since it is with the county administrator and establish a reasonable severance package.
What is Mr. Preston going to do for Greer, R. Wilson, Thompson and Floyd?
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DickRambone writes:
Stupid, your insight is indeed prescient. I applaud you for your forthright knowledge of this situation, and I look forward to more insights from you.
andersonnews2008#274603 writes:
Preston couldn't lose. Time, money and possibly the law were on his side. And he may still reject the offer. But I suspect he had already accepted it before the meeting took place.
Here's the losers: The majority of council for not following procedures. Taxpayers who have to pay for it. This newspaper for not demanding and achieving more transparency. County employees who will have to sacrifice and suffer to make up for the loss of $1.1M. Michael Cunningham for possibly accepting a job that should have been advertised. And Michael Cunningham who will never have the respect from council or the community needed to do the job.
StupidShouldHurtMore writes:
Losers, andersonnews2008?
Losers?
Council followed parliamentary procedure to a T last night. Actually, with a chairman that knows, understands, and operates a meeting by Robert's Rules of Order, Chairman Thompson and the current sitting council, in 2008, have not (yet) failed to follow proper procedure.
If you are really bent out of shape over the prospects of taking monies from the General Fund to pay for JRP, might I suggest tapping the reserve fund? County employees will not have to suffer AT ALL over handling a payout to JRP. No one will lose their job, take a cut in pay, etc etc ... and to imply such an action is reckless and without merit.
Now, as for smearing Mr. Cunningham before he even takes office ... REALLY? How low can you possibly sink? In tight economic times, and with the current estimated cost of a national search somewhere between $25,000 to $30,000, why not hire internally? Why not promote growth from within? Why not demonstrate that career paths exist, even at the highest levels within Anderson County Government?
Why not, especially seeing how you and others will quibble over a $7 bill at Starbucks. If we can't justify a cup of coffee at Starbucks, how can we justify a national search that costs as much as a Buick?
Please . . .
The right thing was done. Don't taint it because it was not YOU or YOUR SUPPORTERS that did the right thing.
In fact, I find it humorous that MCW and BW voted against firing JRP. I guess he was doing a good job all along.
... stupid ...
- SSHM
momagain45 writes:
I completely agree with you. When I heard about this on the news, I fully expected paragraph #8 and much, much more. Sounds almost like an admission of guilt. I personally think they all have something to hide. But it's time to get over it and move on. Preston is gone.
StupidShouldHurtMore writes:
It's a hold harmless clause. Pretty standard these days. In fact, I'd wager that if each of you review your car insurance policy, specific to what happens during a wreck, you'd see evidence of a hold harmless clause.
If you don't, ask your agent about how hold harmless works in the event of an accident.
It's a good thing and it helps to keep lawsuits out of the court systems. To imply that Item #8 is anything more than standard practice is simply silly.
- SSHM
andersonnativejtm writes:
Your post hits the nail on the head. These comments are some of the few intelligent words I've seen on this post.
DickRambone writes:
Dear Cindy Roper and guy, Laughing out loud and HF,
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HF writes:
It wasn't just high crimes, it also included misdemeanors. AND...
Just because people want him gone doesn't mean we wanted him/ council to rape us on the way out! But what else would ONE expect from one of the “cheerleaders.”
momagain45 writes:
Thanks for the response. I know how a hold harmless clause works and the purpose of a hold harmless clause. I see it everyday in my line of work. Maybe I am silly but I still think there's more to this than we'll ever know. But what's done is done. It's time to move on.
clemson_girl writes:
I wish my boss would offer me $1.14 million to leave. Don't think I'd turn it down.
xenacat2#267394 writes:
this is nothing but a slap in the face to the taxpayers of anderson county.
voicefromAnderson writes:
How does Michael Cunningham qualifly to be county administrator, just because he was Prestons assistant does mean he is the man for the job. We sure dont need anyone involved with Preston to take over and keep screwing us as county residents.
fq1126 writes:
This is criminal, and as taxpayers, we should file a class action suit on our own behalf. There is indeed , not only improprierties, but criminal actions taking plave here. The council people who cooked this up should be prosecuted for their felonious collusion, along with Mr. Preston.
fq1126 writes:
hey, another idea. Why don't we all simply refust to pay any county taxes until this travesty is corrected, and those responsible, punished. It should be easy enough to get a restraining order to prevent the wasting of our tax money.
susibabi#227590 writes:
Be careful what you ask for !!! Kudos to the Council , I think this is a fine end and M. Cunningham will do a great job for Anderson County. Let's just hope the new council doesn't start a witch hunt after him . I wish JP the very best and CW and BW should be happy, after all this is exactly what they wanted.
ElCid writes:
As a graduate of a Roberts Rules of Order course, I can attest that Mr. Thompson did NOT follow RRO. In addition, one of the main teaching points in RRO is that it should NOT be used for governmental organizations. They should develop their owns rules of procedure.
Hopefully, the council has learned its leason and will never enter into such an ill-conceived contract as Mr. Preston's and that they will expercise appropriate supervision over the administrator.
The next administrator and the council should do a complete review of all the programs and personnel positions created by Mr. Preston during his empire building. Then reduce the size of government and the salaries of most of the higher officials.
It is obvisous that Thompson, Greer, Floyd and R. Wilson got snookered by Mr. Preston - one more time.
slycin56#205931 writes:
I haven't been involved in this Preston war, but what I saw the council do last night was unbelievably deceitful, shocking & NOT in the best interest of the residents those council members represent. I very much hope they're brought to task for it.
sophievoter writes:
Not too long ago, the rick is wrong group was willing to spend a million dollars if necessary to find out where a few thousand dollars was spent. You wanted JP gone ASAP regardless of the cost......Now he will be gone and your new council can come into a brand new situation. Mr. Cunningham is extremely intelligent and has never been a puppet to JP. Mr. Cunningham is not an assistant to JP, but is actually 2nd in command for Anderson County. I think you will find him transparent in his work ethics and available to the citizens of Anderson County. I know him to be very honest and a real community activist. He does not drink or smoke. He appears to be happily married with a couple of children. He serves on several community boards.
Lets wish him well and give him a chance. I for one believe this is a great opportunity for Anderson.
redrider2k5 writes:
if in fact during the council meeting was the 1st time that ANY council members had heard of the proposal.
how in the world did the council determine where the money that is to be paid to Mr.Preston would come from & who would replace Mr.Preston within a couple of hours ? the councils decision just leaves more questions to be answered.everyone has questions, no one has answers.i have a character that lurks my home, my family calls it
"Mr.Nobody".when something happens & no one confesses."Mr.Nobody" gets the blame.
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TheCommander writes:
For those who attended the Council meeting or watched the broadcast on Charter you will note that this is a dark day for Anderson County. For a document presented by Mr. Wilson who stated that this was the first time anybody had seen it and was presented as information that it quickly seemed that five council members already knew about it. In less than one hour it was quickly passed with little discussion and a contract for Mr. Cunningham quickly appeared whereby Mr. Cunningham was voted to be named the new administrator. Never before have I see seen a body of elected officials ram legislation through wthout discussion without any input from the citizens of the County be they for or against such legislation. People say that President Elect Obama is going to try and bring principles of Socialism to America. Anderson County Council by thei votes of 5-2 have shown what we may be in for. This County Council through their actions would make Lenin, Stalin, and Mao proud. Freedom and democracy do not exist in Anderson County. Truly the outgoing council members and their allies have enacted revenge for not being re-elected to serve again. The irony of this was that all the new council was going to do was put Mr. Preston on a shorter leash and not give him the blank check he has been able to opeate under during previous councils. As we witnessed our elected officials are not accountable to anyone even those who elected them in the first place.
marinerenovation#214986 writes:
How can Anderson County afford to pay a man this kind of money for basically breaking the system ? Why is Anderson County not being investigated ? Why is everyone afraid of this man ? FIRE HIM WITH NO SEVERENCE PACKAGE.What is all these bailouts for managers not running their jobs ??? What is happening to America and where is common sense ??
yankee writes:
Last night was a mockery of Government.
Anyone that would support such activities is a fool.
Those Council members that staged last nights events (and it was plainly staged, none of them are very good actors/actresses) should be ashamed of their actions.
Preston gone? I'm more concerned with the actions of the Council and what it means for the future of Anderson County.
zeldaz writes:
I am truly not believing what I am seeing. This just proves a very sad point for Anderson. The Joey haters are NEVER going to be pleased. They finally get what they have been griping for for years, to allow the demise of Anderson County because of their fears of progress. It is given to them on a sliver platter - and they still cry like little toddlers throwing a temper tantrum.
Any agree with me that the wrong crowd is leaving? I truly wish that this wasn't happening the way it is. However, no man can be expected to endure the junk Mr. Preston has endured for years and would have endured for the next two, with out losing one's mind. Anderson County, you think you are so smart! The one who helped you grow to where you are, along with his employees and supporters, is being pushed away and the DA's of Anderson County are taking over. I pray we survive until the next election! I also say the "stupid should hurt all the way to the bank!" You Go! Mr. Preston and you keep letting them see what we have lost!
StupidShouldHurtMore writes:
Zeldaz,
What you now see, with JRP gone, is that there are truly three groups, politically, here in Anderson County:
1.) Pro-JRP, Pro-growth.
2.) Anti-JRP, Pro-growth.
3.) Anti-JRP, Anti-growth.
It's that usually silent majority that comprises group 2 that voted with group 3 to bring about the change that is the incoming class of county council members. It is THAT group, now having noted in a number of posts and replies, both here and elsewhere that the "issue" is gone/moot and that they - they being the incoming class - have nothing to stop them from implementing their agenda for Anderson County.
I hope and pray that group 2 comes back to the fold and votes with group 1 in 2010.
Time will tell ... time will tell.
- SSHM
StupidShouldHurtMore writes:
Apparently L_O_L, you missed the point.
Think of all three group as three points along a bell curve. Group 1 is on the left, nearly flat. Group 2 is in the middle, as the top of the bell curve. Group 3 is on the right, nearly flat.
Group 1 and 3 are basically small minorities within the whole of Anderson. Group 2 ... your soccer moms, NASCAR dads, those that are generally politically disconnected (focused on church, school, home, work, and wal-mart) - they make up the heart and soul of Anderson County.
It's very easy to label sections of the county voters. Talk to folks within your own Republican Party. There are hard (R)s, soft (R)s, RhINOs, etc. Labels are everywhere!
I'll tell you who I am to draw these lines and conclusions. I'm a student of politics - a political scientist. If there is anyone qualified to make this type of assessment, it would be me and others within this same field.
Feel free to leaf through the election results of the past ten years. It's a VERY SAFE assertion.
Maybe STUPID does not hurt enough.
- SSHM
zeldaz writes:
SSHM, I think that the way you acknowledged the three groups is quite appropriate. I think the insight there is terrific. I agree 100% that Group 2 is the Group that needs to come back and support Group 1. To LOL, SSHM did not even imply that the working man, soccer mom or nascar dad doesn't have time to stay informed. And please be assured that you NOT SSHM, called yourself a name!
And you say the Anderson County just won a major battle. Who is really politically disconnected?
I wonder.
StupidShouldHurtMore writes:
L_O_L,
There is no insult there. I'm in line with what seems like the rest of Anderson every Saturday doing my weekly shopping. I'm wondering like everyone else why Wal-Mart only has ... maybe 5 registers going among the 30+ registers. It makes for good conversation and for meeting your neighbors, for certain.
If you read through my list again ... church, school, home, work, wal-mart ... those are what we call "common themes" and "common threads." In other words, and put more simply, we ALL participate in those items.
Group 2 is a very large group. Some individuals, like yourself L_O_L, can and apparently do balance the demands of the "common themes" and political awareness. All too often, that is not the case.
Ever watch the Tonight Show? Ever tune in during Jay Leno's segment called "Jaywalking?" Jaywalkers sit politically in Group 2. Good people - pay their taxes - just not politically interested or involved in anything beyond the end of their street.
So yes, you can be politically aware and be in Group 2. The odds of you being as politically aware or connected as folks in Group 1 or Group 3 ... very very slim.
Remember: Ignorance is temporary. Stupid is forever.
- SSHM
zeldaz writes:
CindyRoper, On the day after the elections I posted that even though I was not happy about the results it was time to move on and work together. My stance has not changed since then. As for my being a sour grapes distributor, I have not engaged in activities in this vain. It would be pointless because we must now pull together and work for Anderson County.
However, I do not have to agree the views of people who are not working for the better of Anderson County. I do think your choice of words (NOT MINE) of the cesspool getting what it wants is completely accurate. The problem is, however, that it is a small “cesspool” of people who want to ruin Anderson County because of their desire to ruin one individual. I wonder if it will ever occur to you that if even a small group of people were working toward a common goal for Anderson County that did not involve a downright personal vendetta against an individual; you might make more friends for your cause. The issue at hand is a pure example of personal attack on an individual! That, my lady, is what I detest!
I have no problem with people having views different than mine. As long as we can discuss issues and have civil conversations. Otherwise, the person with the other view thinks that they can badger me into submission with their views. That is not going to happen. Not today. Not tomorrow. Not Ever!
Diametrically opposite to the truth??? I believe you and others that have views like yours are diametrically opposite to the truth. Hence, I think that we all must define what the truth is and how we get to the core of it. The truth is to one, one thing and yet something else to another.
Now for the record, I believe that the thought processes of SSHM are sound and well thought out. He has repeatedly made many valid and real points. I think that just because he seems to put thought and time into his posts, you think that he is just silly nilly. He is not! He (or she for that matter) is intelligent and trying to address issues with sound judgment. Do I always agree with him? I doubt it. Do I always respect his views? Yes. Why? Because we can discuss our differing views civilly. That concept should really be foreign to politics or Anderson County.
Can’t wait to see what you blow my way on this post. Nevertheless, please understand that I am not hurt by your attacks so you just might want to save your energy.
mom2two writes:
I can't stand it.... I told myself I wouldn't get drawn into this BS anymore, but I just can't stand it...
"#8" is a typical clause in ANY release contract... anyone who has worked in an executive position and has separated from a company would have seen, implimented, issued or received a similar type of release... in fact, it's SO frickin common, you can view it here...
http://www.co.yuma.az.us/HR/PDF/Separ...
what the sitting council did probably was not done to the letter of the law, and I am sure someone will come forward to challenge it... but to read stuff into something that is so blatantly normal legalese is just pathetic on your alls parts.
Get over it. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. And sometimes you're Monica Lewinsky...
StupidShouldHurtMore writes:
Patriot,
Please understand you are attempting to tie a documented instance of voter fraud to a contractual buyout. It is comparing apples to oranges.
For those not familiar with Athens, TN, here is a very balance reading (think C-SPAN dry and dull) of what happen in the mid-to-late 1940s in Athens, TN:
http://www.constitution.org/mil/tn/ba...
Voter fraud IS NOT nor CAN NOT be used to draw a parallel to a modern-day contractual buyout. It is simply not the same.
- SSHM
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